Disagreeing with Obama Over Israel and It's Makeup
Nadene Goldfoot from Jonathan Tobins's article, How Pro-Israel is Obama? Assessing the United Nations Post-Veto Fallout
The UN just had a vote brought up against Israel by the Palestinians which the USA vetoed, thank goodness. However, there are many points that Obama and Israel supporters do not see eye to eye on. Hillary made mention on ABC News on Sunday that Jewish presence there, referring to Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem, was "illigitimate" which is not following protocal at all. It stinks!
More than a quarter of a million Israelis live in Judea-Samaria, so called West Bank. More than 200,000 live in parts of Jerusalem that had been illegally occupied by Jordan before 1967's war. Obama has fought Israel on building homes in existing Jewish neighborhoods of Jerusalem which to me and others is ridiculous. He is trying to do away with the fact that Israel already had said it would do away with remote settlements for a peace accord and those that in the Bush administration were already facts to be respected would remain in Israel's hands. Obama is messing with Israel's capital, Jerusalem, and its 40 year old Jewish neighborhoods.
I feel there should have been a time limit as well for the Palestinians to come around and make peace with Israel if they really want and need their own state so badly. Israelis have waited now for 63 years and they haven't done it yet, no matter what has been offered to them. That's ENOUGH! I feel that this fact alone gives Israel the right to go ahead with their life and build in Judea-Samaria, their ancient homeland. Otherwise, it just sits there as a wasteland, waiting. When you come right down to it, the Palestinians, who came from many other countries in the first place and who were looking for jobs with the returned Israelis, do have 46 other Muslim countries that they could live in other than what they claim to want now. Look at Jordan. It is home to many so called Palestinians.
For Obama and Clinton to end this with saying that the Jewish state's position on the issue of settlements was illegitimate and that Israel threatened peace and devastate trust shows that the USA has very little respect for Israel. To me they are putting their head in the sand and refusing to see just who is threatening peace and cannot be trusted. Many see that the Israel-USA relationship has lessened a great deal since the Bush administration. Actually, other presidents have never accepted Israel's position on territory, new towns or borders, but then they are not the ones living there or seeing it through the eyes of the Israelis, either. They are most likely seeing the situation as it affects them personally. They make decisions without having studied the personalities involved or knowing the psyche of the Middle Easterners.
Does the American administration think that giving the Palestinians East Jerusalem and all of Judea and Samaria will cause them to sign a peace treaty and....keep it? Do they think this will bring Hamas around? They were given Gaza on a silver plate and they only became more violent and haven't stopped yet. No. The Palestinians, unfortunately, are not thinking with American heads. They want more; the extinction of Israel, and no one has counseled them as to why this is a bad idea. The American administration only seems to be contributing to the Fatah and Hamas belief that they are right to want the death of Israel.
I think it is most unwise to even think of having a peace treaty as long as Hamas remains Israel's enemy. When these former PLO groups, Fatah and Hamas can jointly be acceptable peace-loving people and care for the lives of their children to be long and safely lived, then peace can be obtained. Fatah is not ready for peace, not as long as they teach in their schools that there is no Israel on the map, or teach hate for Israelis, I know they are not truly into a peaceful accord. They seem to have taken just one important step in the right direction, and that is to not fire upon Israel. Of course, they are allowing the Hamas Gazans to do all of that. Abbas or others in his party have no authority over Hamas. When these two Muslim groups can become peaceful with Israel, we will all celebrate.
Resource: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0211/tobin022111.php3?printer_friendly
I think it is most unwise to even think of having a peace treaty as long as Hamas remains Israel's enemy. When these former PLO groups, Fatah and Hamas can jointly be acceptable peace-loving people and care for the lives of their children to be long and safely lived, then peace can be obtained. Fatah is not ready for peace, not as long as they teach in their schools that there is no Israel on the map, or teach hate for Israelis, I know they are not truly into a peaceful accord. They seem to have taken just one important step in the right direction, and that is to not fire upon Israel. Of course, they are allowing the Hamas Gazans to do all of that. Abbas or others in his party have no authority over Hamas. When these two Muslim groups can become peaceful with Israel, we will all celebrate.
Resource: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0211/tobin022111.php3?printer_friendly
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